Gateway should have at least 125m from what I saw on its Wikipedia page. > SpaceX President and COO Gwynne Shotwell told CNBC in May that the company cant go public until were flying regularly to Mars.. A new competition is opening immediately for subsequent landings. It is reminding the readers of the possibility that their reporting on their owner might be prone to bias, even if there is no sign of bias in any particular case. The live announcement[0] just announced that the SpaceX bid includes an uncrewed test flight. yes, as soon as I saw the Doge jump after the nasa announcment I thought "that sneaky bastard was telegraphing the nasa contract win this whole time". starship won't be able to sit there forever. Most of the time the Earth is closer to the moon than the gateway is. > A planetary extinction-level event has already happened where every land animal larger than 25kg died. There are still major risks with the Starship program so I don't think anyone should be 100% confident they can pull this off, but the massive side benefit is if they do NASA will have proven out a generic system, fully reusable and with orbital refueling, that can with minimal modification cost-effectively send humans to Mars and much of the rest of the solar system as well. If SpaceX cannot get reusability down, they'll have to expend a few boosters and tankers to get it working. True enough, they can't be throwing away tankers for each refuel. Yeah, shipping off to Mars would be a hard sell for most people in that situation. The lunar landers were tiny because the Moon has such a small gravity well. Dont look for that to happen soon, though. Not surprising to hear SpaceX being anti-labor given Tesla. Even if it did it would be a high-risk proposition. The problem is then about how you do the integration. Maybe even send up a special one with some extra docking ports on it. Somehow I am picturing only 1-3 tests for other competitors. I didn't know they could actually do the accent in flight. Congress will be furious, both because they didn't award two contracts and because their golf course buddies didn't get the contract. SpaceX is also a young company with a high-risk strategy of betting the company on massive growth in the space industrywhich is another reason why it is more willing to invest its own money (or its private investors money) than trying to get the taxpayers to carry 100% of development costs. At this point, a bet on SpaceX is a bet on Elon Musk, which has paid off handsomely for Tesla shareholders. And a few deadly disasters have changed the attitude around risking astronauts lives to become more risk-averse. 2. A stock IPO? Why in the title (not reflected in HN title) is it "Elon Musk's SpaceX" rather than just "SpaceX"? I could imagine the distinction being relevant if he had just taken the helm and this was the company taking some new direction because of it (e.g. With a list of backers like this, its understandable that many retail investors are itching to buy the stock once the IPO occurs. He should fire an array of hundreds of impact resistant dogecoin cold wallets (maybe privkeys engraved in metal plates then surrounded by a balloon or similar) from lunar orbit to scatter bounties to explore the moon all over the surface. As of February 2021, it had left beta and was delivering to customers across several markets. And possibly for individuals as well, given the potentially almost limitless resources available in Space. Getting to a ballistic trajectory from one side of the planet to the other takes almost as much dV as going to orbit. One Starship is comparable to ISS. Surely this is a civil matter with no chance of jail time right? A Theia impact would make Earth far less livable than Mars. And apparently Blue Origin/National Team's proposal scored poorly in part because they wanted to keep some of the data rights from NASA. Beyond delivering payloads into space, the company has opportunities in satellite Internet and space tourism. I'll still be cheering along when the first boot-print is made, mind you. For example on commercial crew, Congress asked NASA to do Commercial Crew but didn't give them enough money to do it. What you say may well be true for Apollo. The same thing happened to Dragon it went from 7 seats down to 4 NASA safety requirements had some role in that, but the same thing might have happened even without NASA. A trip to Mars needs a lot more supplies than a trip to the Moon, and the more supplies you need to take with you, the fewer people you can fit on the ship. And the National Team demanded significant upfront payments. Even the Space Shuttle, technically could have been fully automated, but NASA had a culture of wanting to put a human in control. Maybe it won't happen for another 65 million years. > I'm getting very nervous about manned propulsive landings. Share your opinion and gain insight from other stock traders and investors. Gerst was fired because sls was going too slowly. I can't find the document, but I know NASA was pretty set on preferably a 3 but possibly a 2 stage lander and weren't sold on Starships reusability and using the same vehicle for cargo and human missions. It was always done manually, ostensibly to maintain pilot proficiency and minimize the reaction time should the autopilot misbehave. We absolutely should be doing a lot more about climate change, but this is something we can do in parallel. The plan was to ease it away from ISS, open the cargo bay doors, execute the de-orbit burn, and orient the vehicle to break up and burn as completely as possible. I think people are really vastly underestimating how fast things are moving. Last I heard, SpaceX will IPO once there are regular trips to Mars with Starship. The basic ability to get people to and from the ISS was a critical capability, so it was sensible to want redundant options as long as it was affordable. If the Shuttle was damaged and re-entry was too risky, then the crew would shelter in the ISS and the Shuttle would attempt to re-enter and land without the crew onboard best case scenario, the Shuttle lands intact; worse case, it breaks up on re-entry while the crew remain safely behind on the ISS. If it was simply a matter of money, SpaceX could raise $15B in an IPO in a heartbeat given the incredible retail demand. https://twitter.com/FoxViking1/status/1383381257812283395. (I'm not sure what the plan was for STS-125, which I believe is the only post-Columbia non-ISS mission they couldn't use the IFM on the ISS since it wasn't reachable from their orbit; I don't know if NASA had a second IFM cable to use for it.). The original moon landing yielded huge technological advances, many of which made their way into commercial applications. I think the crew capacity will also depend on the length of the trip. Heres what investors should consider before buying shares once SpaceX stock is available to the public. It would also be a long, rough trip. Just miss out some fuel tank and payload section segments. Maybe, Boeing forgot that their bid was addressed to NASA not Congress, they put stuff in there like launching on SLS which certain people in Congress would like, and thought that would be enough to overcome the fact they'd ignored some of NASA's stated requirements. The smart answer is "on Earth" because the list of horrible things about your situation on Mars is still 5x that long, plus all those things are already problems there. Find the latest Kandi Technologies Group, Inc. (KNDI) stock discussion in Yahoo Finance's forum. Consumers with the financial ability to fly into space will likely treat the experience as a novelty event, something thats fun to do once. Its not about distance, its about deltaV necessary to get to it. Honestly, I think its not important, but the capabilities doing it will build are better than the ones we would get by spending the money elsewhere. It's definitely a strong recruiting tool. Although there must be almost completely different training between the Boeing capsule and the spacex one, ultimately they had a good sync point to connection to the space station's "international format docking port". We cant even not fck up our very own and livable planet, its just naive to think of colonization. It is a sanctified institution politically where we must always fund it, similar to social security and Medicare. I kind of think that they put their name in there just to try to make life hard for SpaceX. Your email address will not be published. But if SpaceX bids a big ship, they can't say "no" to it just because it is bigger than they thought they needed. Starship can do suborbital hops without Superheavy. This doesn't seem like a terrible use of it. Basically throwing in their lot with anybody but Elon. Its a lucky break that SpaceX 'over-delivered' to an absurd degree. It's surprising to see them only choose a single winner here. If you look at it in terms of capabilities, SpaceX checks all the boxes; reusable rockets, rapid turnaround, lowest cost. However, once Starship is crew-rated for launch and re-entry, the number of possible crew is going to increase I don't know what the limit is, but at least 10, maybe even 20. You're right of course though, I forgot that for Artemis they wont be landing people on Earth in Starship. If I could pick, I'd pick planetary health, and improving human health and lifespan as my two top priorities. Yes, but it needs to be said that the "huge brick of money" was half of what NASA gave Boeing (which is itself just a tiny proportion of Boeing's profit). The lunar variant won't be launching people from earth and won't be returning to earth. King (CEO of Dynetics). To add to this point, I think were seeing a clear recognition that space travel and infrastructure is shifting out of the Defense sector and into the private sector. I wonder if NASA has any technology sharing provisions in their contracts? If you want to own a piece of SpaceX you can buy publicly traded companies that have invested in it already such as Alphabet or if youre an accredited investor you can look for shares on secondary marketplaces. I have a lot of faith in SpaceX and not a whole lot in Blue Origin but thats also because I dont know anything about them. If someone says: "I will give you a million dollars once you do a dance", I understand that as a commitment to provide me with a million dollars after I do a dance. You get the picture. What exactly are they planning to take that requires such a large ship? My biggest worry is whether SpaceX can keep up its momentum without Musk driving it. SpaceX has gone through more than a dozen rounds of funding. Maybe that's the arrogance of thinking you don't need to offer what the customer is asking for, you know what's good for them better than they do? And thankfully the theory turned out to be incorrect. Sure, SpaceX could've just sat back and launched OneWeb's sats for them, but instead they built Starlink and they'll probably eat OneWeb's lunch. https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20070019347/downloads/20 https://spacenews.com/nasa-delays-starting-contract-with-spa https://spacenews.com/nasa-selects-three-companies-for-human https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CRiJTJikjk. Who knows? :). Who's the CEO of Dynetic? If the optics of sending old people to Mars is bad, the optics of sending, say, Syrian refugees to Mars is even worse, but if someone wants a fresh start that's one way to do it. But just because we will eventually die out doesn't mean that we can't try to do what we can to survive. Edit: Not sure why all the downvotes, so here is a citation. You could even convert the fuel tanks into extra cabin space (the classic "wet workshop" space station design). (However, there is a backdoor way you can own SpaceX stocksee below) Yep, Surveyors were certainly a good test: Apollo had a pretty strict deadline to minimize the chance USSR would accomplish the goal first. This will still be a NASA mission, with NASA astronauts with their standard US military ranks, et c. Certain private sector industries wish to join this club. SpaceX was investigated for only hiring US citizens and permanent residents for jobs that are legally required to only be filled with US citizens and permanent residents. They just announced their top 10 best buys now across the entire stock market. I think the trouble is that people don't get just how bad Mars is. Required fields are marked *. Don't for a second think that Doge to the moon was not literal. Boeing wasn't part of this competition. I suspect Spacex will develop cooling systems to re-liquefy any gaseous propellants as this will be more of a concern for the ~6 month mission to Mars. At least until they change their approaches. Yeah, I really can't help but wonder if SpaceX is going to go after the long distance travel market. Elon could also keep it private and fund it himself "in a heartbeat" by selling a small portion of his Tesla stock. It was only chosen because it's all the Senate boondoggle SLS could reach. Take the peak of Everest, cross it with Antarctica, and dose it with radiation. Once Starship is usable for payloads, no other launch provider will be able to compete. A Model T or 737 in space. Put $1000 in each of them - if dogecoin price goes to the moon it could partially fund future lunar exploration missions. Musk knows this and its one reason why he doesnt care to take the company public. SpaceX is not currently listed and has no public ticker. So there will only be a tanker that has to do the flip. As stupid as it is, that is the contract. vs "give us a cost plus contract, we haven't done it once, also like commerical crew, give us significantly more than the people that already did it". That open approach is definitely delivering public mindshare that seems to be helping them. Sorry for not providing a link to the document giving the procedure for automated shuttle contingency operation. If this option doesn't pan out fine, try something else. 2. Gateway is in a very odd orbit, a near rectilinear halo orbit. Thanks for sharing. This is really huge news. The company charges $62 million for a standard commercial Falcon 9 launch with a new booster, so the first mission results in about $12 million in profit. Probably just a coincidence (I'm sure Artemis was chosen because she's Apollo's sister), but fun nonetheless. Heres what we do know. That should massively reduce the number of refuelling missions needed for the early Artemis flights. Although SpaceX saves government money on space travel, the benefits seem misaligned in a world where covid rages and unemployment remains stubbornly high. The dragon would probably make a good lifeboat if you brought it along for the ride somehow. why patent such things at all if they're classified? I wish a newspaper reporter, writing about the union to which he or she belongs, had to disclose that relationship. But yeah, Andy Weir is far from a classic in that regard. SpaceX will have a huge leg up on the competition for the next competition, but if the Senate ponies up with more cash we might get two companies selected for the next contract like was desired for this one. SpaceX stock has a large list of venture capital backers, including Founders Fund, the VC firm started by fellow PayPal Mafia brethren Peter Thiel, along with high-profile VC firms G Squared and Draper Associates. > Bezos is a joke when it comes to the Space Race in my opinion, he should stick to what he's amazing at like selling groceries and things on Amazon. Its competitors are mostly older companies with a far more conservative, financially risk-adverse strategy. A planetary extinction-level event has already happened where every land animal larger than 25kg died. You can now fly a full geology lab to the surface of the moon. I will say again - it's a bottomless money pit. SpaceX has noted the short-term demands of shareholders conflict with Musks long-term ambitions. This [0] is also an interesting piece. $419.99 per share. However, as the only source of significant revenue any changes in governmental priorities would force SpaceX to revisit its value proposition. The moon is IMHO more of a nice to have. They don't want to be accused of hiding the relationship. But its the next leg of SpaceXs monetization that has been the highest profile: space tourism. I wonder if for the first time in history one of these space programs can deliver on the original budget? At the JFK planning moment, there were no plans, and hardly means, to fly to the Moon to stay. For the first few landings they probably won't even use most of the capacity. For that payload capacity, I assume you would have most or all of a habitable lunar base. But just by taking a chance with SpaceX during commercial cargo, NASA saved them and brought American space launch capacity to a level that dominates the world. In the short term, it's mostly working out the technology and being able to learn more about planetary science by studying something up close that isn't the Earth. > Sorry for not providing a link to the document giving the procedure for automated shuttle contingency operation. A stock symbol sets you apart from other companies in this crowded space and forces investors with short-term memories to remember your company. I'm surprised that the paywal business model works. But NASA played the hand that was dealt. No need to make significant changes to the functional parts, it would just be stubbier. I just open it in privacy mode. According to Forbes, Musk is the second-richest person in the world (trailing Amazon and Blue Origin founder Jeff Bezos) with a net worth approaching $200 billion.Before the most recent round of funding, Musk owned 54% of SpaceX as of September 2020. Bezos made a bet that if he assembled an unholy conglomeration of defense contractors with dozens of senators on their payroll and named it "The National Team", NASA couldn't dare not give it to him. This is innovative and completely unproven. Even if they manage to hit their launch date, their flight rate will be incredibly low for years.

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